APFN Postings "Walmart - Red China - Operation Garden Plot - Chinese Secret Police -  UN Sign Codes and the New World Order".

May 2002 / by Ron Garon

Ron Garon
WAL-MART and the RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE
Wed May 22 12:36:29 2002
192.204.130.223


I believe there is a relationship with Walmart, Garden Plot, and NWO...

From Skolnick's Report at:

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/

WAL-MART and the RED CHINESE SECRET POLICE,
Parts 1, 2, and 3

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/rcsp.html

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/rcsp2.html

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/rcsp3.html


Ron Garon
China is flexing its military muscle, Warships begin global
Thu May 23 13:11:53 2002
192.204.130.223


To: ParanoidTimes@yahoogroups.com

From: "peterkhanzendran" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:25:34 -0000

Subject: Re: [ParanoidTimes] Chinese Warships Begin Global Trip

Reply-to: ParanoidTimes@yahoogroups.com


Personally it looks like China is flexing its military muscle,getting people accustomed to seeing their ships everywhere.
You're also right on part 1.

Peter Zendran II

--- In ParanoidTimes@y..., PBN-VT wrote:

> Hello Peter:
>
> [1] Seems like more of an Intelligence Gathering Operation on a Pretext of
> Public Relations Visit.
> [2] Covert Plan to Invade "Formosa"?
> [3] Wonder How May Chinese it takes to "ROW" a Modern Warship??? .
>
> Mike Balog
> PBN-VT., Editor
> uaicvtmb@t...
> ================
>
> peterkhanzendran wrote:
>
> > Now I wonder when the Chinese will get their two Aircraft Carriers up and running?
> >
> > Peter Zendran II

Cindy
Follow Up on My Vision of Martial Law-A Truck Driver Talks
Tue May 21 13:05:49 2002
206.203.52.213

I recently posted my vision and word of prophecy I felt the Lord gave me the other day regarding martial law, national disasters, and things to come. Here is some interesting follow-up, since people have been asking me for more:

Yes, I feel the time is so near. I have talked to several people today, and people that once didn't believe that martial law could EVER come, now do. I have this sense of peace I've never had before, that God has given me, however.

I know these things are coming, but like I told my sister today, ( she is scared) if you believe in Jesus Christ and are saved and ready to go, there is nothing to be scared about.

Her husband is a truck driver and he travels all over the USA. He said today that he was in Arizona,( I can't remember the name of the town,) but he said he stopped at a WALMART to deliver some things, AND WAS SHOCKED AT WHAT HE SAW!

He said that he went into the back of WALMART, and behind the store there was a HUGH area that was fenced in with barbed wire, JUST like in the prisons! He said it was fixed to where once you were held in it, you couldn't get out. It was very high, and there were some kind of stands (like stadium bleacher seats) all around it, and it looked like military style setting. He also said there was nothing in the enclosed area YET, but it was just closed in with barbed wire.

I wonder: could that be part of the martial law future scenario to come? This truck driver who saw it said it looked like it was there to hold a large large number of people. Now, I hadn't told him about the other reports concerning WALMART's covert involvement and how the government and military will pick people up under martial law and take them to holding facilities nationwide.... but when he told me this set-up at WALMART, I had goose bumps all over me. And what he saw even scared him. He is is a big man, and I've never seen him scared before, but he was badly shaken over that seeing that.

He said he asked some one about it, and no one would tell him anything about it at WALMART! Well, his experience and what he saw got MY attention alright. And it made me think about my vision the other night as well, which I posted for readers. I will never forget the vision God gave me of martial law, the many people hurt by what is coming, and how His Holy Spirit spoke to me during the vision and told me that these events are very near.

God bless the Patriots, Cindy


Ron Garon
MILITARY TARGETS PUBLIC BUILDINGS FOR "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT
Tue May 21 20:20:12 2002
152.163.195.179


Thank You Harold Green Jr. for the information from your website below, confirming these claims and prophecies concerning UN Sign Coding and Operation Garden Plot. Now "Blue Light Specials" and "No Waiting in the Verticle Express Lane" have a whole new meaning.

Ron Garon

MILITARY TARGETS PUBLIC BUILDINGS FOR "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT"!
The prospect of "peacekeeping" military troops incurring American cities, towns, and villages confiscating buildings, setting up roadblocks and check-points, is truly a frightening picture. The truth is, this is exactly what is happening in mock drills nationwide involving local governments and military personnel under the direction of FEMA. (infowars.com link:) "URBAN WARRIORS"--EXPOSED!
FEMA gets a new name! link: "NATIONAL HOMELAND SECURITY AGENCY"

Unknown to the public is the hidden agenda behind these mock drills and "MARTIAL LAW" training which is the implementation of "The United States Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2" or, "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT". This unclassified civil disturbance plan is implemented and facilitated at different levels according to the severity of the crisis scenario at hand and at the descretion of our officials. Since the terrorist attacks on America, the President has declared a *NATIONAL EMERGENCY* and at the stroke of his pen the *EMERGENCY EXECUTIVE ORDERS* could be engaged and "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT" will be implemented at it's highest level. "GARDEN PLOT" states it will bring National Guard, and other branches of our military, plus "Partnership For Peace Members" UN/NATO into our cities, towns and villages, to carry out the emergency plans set forth in the "Emergency Executive Orders". We firmly believe photos below are evidence that these plans have been in the works for a long time and that preparations are being made to set them in motion some time in the near future. May God help us, and that you might seek Him while he may be found!

MILITARY SIGNCODES AT MALLS AND SHOPPING PLAZAS!
New research has discovered hidden codes on facility *DIRECTORY SIGNS*.The codes are found in the *ARROWS*, and operate using the same code format as TACMARS on the back of highway signs. These directory signs began a gradual emergence over the past 10 years and are being erected at nearly all marked facilities at this time
under GSA and ADA regulations.
<<< CLICK ON PHOTO! (view directory sign at "CROSSINGS PLAZA" Traverse City, MI.) Entering the drive of this *MALL*, you are immediately confronted with this directory sign with embedded codes describing important operational sites for military use. Note, the arrows positioned in 3's which are "FACILITY SYMBOLS", This is a direct connection to TACMARKS on the roadways. Observe the familiar ARROW "UP" code and two arrows pointing left, meaning a pick-up area to the left. I would dare anyone to try to obey this *ARROW-UP* directional to "HUDSONS"! Since we are made to believe this means "GO STRAIGHT AHEAD", you would find yourself crashing thru concrete barriers, over a steep landscaped berm with shrubs, and ending up in the parking lot. Sorry, but there is no roadway "straight ahead" at this "T" in the road!!

International/European symbols and coded arrows *INSIDE* Malls!
These symbols and arrow configurations are in reality codes that locate important sites and exits in the mall for the implementation of civilian control. The "BLUE" arrow pointing right on this *mall directory* shows international symbols that relate to process and computer scanning operations. ("Man/Woman", "Phone", "$" symbol). You will also see these codes inside terminals at airports and inside hospitals. Don't be fooled, these contain a secondary meaning for facility incursion, lock-down and confiscation in preparation for military use.

Why is the military targeting these facilities and sites? The answer is totally frightening!!
After several months of close study of building lay-outs, signage, and electronic technology, we are convinced that stores like Wal*mart, Target, Circuit City, Staples and other department stores in strip Malls and plazas, have already been coded inside and set up to be used by National Guard/UN personnel to carry-out "PROCESSING AND CONTROL OPERATIONS OF THE POPULACE"! Executive Order #11002 and #11004 under FEMA, during a declared National Emergency by the president, will direct the Postmaster General of the U.S. to begin immediately a national registration of all residents of the U.S. (Forced National I.D.) for the purpose of control, movement and relocation of the populace. We have evidence that barcoded, pictorial I.D. cards will be produced and issued at these sites and processed through "SWIPE/CARD KEY PADS" and LASER SCANNERS at checkouts. This only stands to reason, that if a forced National I.D. and registration is in the works, where will hundreds of thousands of citizens be shuttled to be processed? (WATCH THE FACILITIES WITH "ONE HR. PHOTO" PROCESSING, MORE THAN JUST PHOTOS WILL BE PROCESSED HERE!)
(NOTE: The directory sign above the photo *center* in WAL*MART has these words: "INFANTS, KIDS, MEN, WOMEN/ CARDS".)
The "tactical arrow codes" on this WAL*MART department directory sign have a secondary meaning. These codes are targeting the "GARDEN CENTER". If you have ever been to the GARDEN CENTER at WAL*MART you will know it is fitted with iron bars and chain link fencing, locking roll-down overhead doors, and locking exit with a register, scanner, and key-pad swipe/card console. It is our belief that the GARDEN CENTER will be a detention area where "dissidents" will be detained for further processing and then relocation. (CLICK ON WAL*MART PHOTO) These are tactical arrow codes found on road signs at "closed down" Kinchloe Air Force Base in Kinross, Michigan. It has been mysteriously converted into a prison complex that extends for two miles! The code is in the arrows.
Directory sign with arrow codes in "TARGET".
Here again, inside of a "TARGET" store, we find coded arrows marking a important place in the store to be used in the sorting of people during "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT". If you have recently been inside "TARGET", new directory signs have been erected with tactical "arrow" codes embedded to mark "stations" inside the store. "TARGET" has a color coded scheme in their department areas, red, blue green, and yellow. These colors very likely refer to types of people or *stations* in the sorting process. Below this sign is a keypad swipe/card console. It is likely a station where "RED" category individuals will need to swipe their newly created I.D. cards in registration for some purpose.
<<< CLICK ON PHOTO for Nazi "deportation" ID card, WWII. Is history repeating itself? May God help us!
Let's use some common sense. These are store aisles. These *arrows* are not needed to find the particular items listed on this directory sign. You simply go down the aisle pertaining to the items found listed on the directory and there is no need for any *arrows*. We are compelled to believe these *arrows* mean the items are down this aisle right? Well, you've been fooled! These *arrows* are bogus and have a completely different reason for being on this sign.


RELOCATION SITE "CAMP LEHMAN" (PRISON)
"CAMP LEHMAN" is a detention center containing about 700 inmates near the Camp Grayling Military Reserve, and is the target of this county road sign on M-93 in Grayling, Michigan. Most of the prison is hidden in a wooded area and is under tight security.

The coding is in the *arrows*-- "3" arrows are a facility code. The arrow "UP" is a symbol for a pickup/drop point for subjects slated for detention. The two arrows pointing left, direct you to the site. Notice that no miles are given to these places listed, just arrows. Arrows "UP" are bogus directionals. If the number of miles had been posted, no arrow "UP" would have been needed as the direction is understood; an alteration to our road sign system recently slipped in quietly so we wouldn't notice.

Public School in Maine marked as "relocation center".
Our thanks to Jim Mathers, an alert and preceptive individual from Maine, for providing us with this amazing photo of *TACMARS* afixed on the *front* of these school crossing signs! The positioning of the markers show the same code patterns and symbols as seen across the U.S. at hundreds of public schools.
Note the marker on the top sign that staddles the center line of the international/European school children crossing sign. This is a very familiar marker position that creates an *opposite pointing* arrow code. The double headed arrow is a *code symbol* found at just about all helicopter sites. This could be used in other applications as well, meaning "transfer point" or a general symbol marking an important facility to handle the populace. The lower sign shows the "TACMAR" positioned to the "left" of the center mounting bolt which points left toward the school! CLICK ON PHOTO!

Public Schools are designated relocation centers for the *RED CROSS* during a disaster scenario to house people driven from their homes. EMERGENCY EXECUTIVE ORDER #11001 allows FEMA to take over all health, education (public schools)and welfare functions.
We believe that these sites will also be converted into civilian *PROCESSING CENTERS*. . All public schools have the latest fiber-optic internet hookups that could be easily tied into government computers and databases, utilizing the laser scanners in the library or cafeteria area swipe/card moduals, to register and sort the populace for control, movement and relocation.

14 YEAR OLD, "POSTER-BOY" FOR CHIP "IMPLANT"?

Clever use of *movable* signs to mark operational sites.
We are amazed to find banks, credit unions, with "drive thru" windows and ATM as sites marked by these sign codes. These facilities are connected electronically with scanners, and other barcode readers that we believe will be converted to scan ID "bracelets" , swipecards, or biochip implants for the purpose of civilian control, and sorting as stated in the "Emergency Executive Orders".
These "ADOPT-A-HIGHWAY" signs are placed at strategic sites without too much question because they are moved periodically and coded with "NUMBERS" to correspond to highway beautification and clean-up projects. We have been keeping track of many of these stretches of highway and signs and have discovered glaring errors when signs are moved and the "numbers of miles" are changed. We contend that these numbers are coded, and are used for site identification. The numbers vary "2", "3", "3 1/2", "4" between signs, yet extremely inaccurate when miles are actually checked. These signs have been found marking WATER SOURCES, PRISONS, BANKS w/drive-thru, important "TURNS" and other marked facilities. CLICK ON PHOTO! Note the signs at the entrance behind the "ADOPT-A-HIGHWAY" sign. *Directory* sign just inside the drive have arrow codes marking parking area and ATM.

Ron Garon
Walmart and "Operation Garden Plot"
Tue May 21 15:12:27 2002
192.204.130.223



Walmart and "Operation Garden Plot"

http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/

Ron Garon
Red and Blue are UN Colors... Garden Plot...
Tue May 21 19:56:37 2002
152.163.195.179



Stew,

I need your help. About three to four weeks ago, there was dialog and rebuttal at APFN about Red China, Garden Plot and Walmart. It's gone now, and I have done massive searching at Google.com and cannot find it. It was a tremendous article, one of a kind, never saw anything like it before. It was a very specific website covering very specific information and detail concerning the relationship with Red China and Walmart. Can you shed light on this, or do you have information, or know the link. This conclusively closes any missing links and considerations about Walmart, Operation Garden Plot, and why Red China will be so involved in the massive airlift program at Walmart, as it relates to these "high barbed wire fences and personel containment areas" now being reported in Arizona and other locations across the US. Was Sam Walton aware and involved in this relationship with Red China, and has anybody noticed the red and blue color schemes of the Walmart stores? Are you aware that Red and Blue are UN colors? Red and Blue lights on the "Blackhawk" helicopter and mini, silent, rotor muffled, low altitude hoover versions. Any good input would be appreciated.

Ron

sherry
walmart and china
Wed May 22 12:06:34 2002
65.66.126.59

check out sherman skolnick-he did a series of article on walmart and china
www.skolnicksreport.com

Ron Garon
Chinese Paratroopers in California?
Fri May 17 15:03:50 2002
192.204.130.223


From Ron: Just saw this post on the other APFN page, the one you can't see while viewing this page. This is a current post for today. My, it's timely and accurate. I guess it should be at the top of the board and considered, cause Pam and I have been trying for awhile now, to jump start the nation to this!!! Of course, my conviction is, we need to be fighting for this country and what freedoms we have left... too much blood spilled and lives taken already, to just let her go without a good fight, because it appears to be "wrapped up"! And Yes, they were invited wholeheartdly in the Clinton Administration, and the enemy is crawling ALL over our country now under the guise of "Joint UN Training Exercises" ... DA? or NUET? DA!!!

Ron

America is DOOMED!!!!
Chinese Paratroopers Take Lower 48
Fri May 17 10:08:37 2002
165.247.15.48

Chinese Paratroopers in California?
By J.R. Nyquist

A caller recently told talk radio host Art Bell about a disturbing dream: Chinese paratroops landing in California. Bell dismissed the idea as a logistical impossibility. How could the People's Republic sustain a credible invasion against the continental U.S.?

Art Bell has a point. The U.S. would not be an easy country to invade and occupy. Such an invasion would have to be prepared in advance, at great cost. First, there would have to be nuclear and biological strikes to weaken the defenses. China would then need bases, supply stockpiles and intact harbor facilities.

Looking at recent headlines, however, we ought to wonder if invasion preparations have not been underway in plain view. Russia and China have recently conducted joint military exercises in the Pacific. In April Russian bombers tested Alaska's air defenses. It must be recognized that Russia's missile-power and China's unlimited manpower have been joined into one clenched fist. This represents the fulfillment of KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn’s least-credited prediction about the end of the “Final Phase” of Russia’s long range deception strategy. Writing in his 1984 book, "New Lies for Old," Golitsyn explained:

Before long, the communist strategists might be persuaded that the balance had swung irreversibly in their favor. In that event they might well decide on a Sino-Soviet ‘reconciliation.’ The scissors strategy would give way to the strategy of ‘one clenched fist.’ At that point the shift in the political and military balance would be plain for all to see.

The plan for a joint military campaign against America, waged by Russia and China, was drawn up many years ago, and was explained in 1999 by the highest ranking defector of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Russian General Staff, Col. Stanislav Lunev (a Chinese-speaking Russian military officer who worked in China during the 1980s). Based on his own experiences, Lunev suspects that the Russians and Chinese were secretly allied before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Regarding the existence of a joint Russian-Chinese war plan, Lunev stated that prior to his 1992 defection, the Russian General Staff was still committed to fighting and winning a future nuclear war against America. “The nuclear war plan is still on,” he was told. But there would be changes. No longer would Russian troops be responsible for a follow-up invasion of the lower 48 states (U.S. mainland). Russian forces would be responsible for occupying “Alaska and parts of Canada.” The Chinese would occupy the lower 48 states. In addition, certain Third World countries would be given “looting rights.”

Before expounding on this overall division of responsibilities between Russia and China it is important to explain that Russian ideas regarding a future nuclear war are not like American ideas. In America we think of nuclear war as the end of all life on earth. We are influenced in this view by fictional accounts, by movies written by persons who have no expert knowledge of military plans or methods. Not sharing America’s pulp fiction standpoint, the Russian generals are informed by the latest military science. Their war plans are precise. They know where the bombs will fall and where the fallout will land. They know what areas will be radioactive and for how long. They also know that the world will not come to an end, even if two hundred million people die in a few days or weeks.

It is my experience, from talking with U.S. military experts, that they have not done their homework with regard to Soviet or Chinese war plans. Instead of carefully reading Russian military texts or listening to the testimony of Col. Lunev, U.S. strategists are blinded by their own preconceptions. They refuse to think creatively about nuclear war. They fail to see how nuclear weapons might be used to clear a path for a new type of conventional fighting supported by logistical innovations. Who needs heavy, difficult-to-supply divisions when masses of light troops, living off the land, are all that is needed in the wake of nuclear and biological attacks? But U.S. strategists have not considered the possibilities. They have not looked closely into the logic of Chinese and Russian force structure, weapons developments and logistical preparations. They have not considered the Chinese use of shipping companies, port facilities and the appropriation of key logistical gateways under the cover of peacetime trade.

One U.S. expert I spoke with totally denied that Russia or China would consider occupying U.S. territory during a nuclear war. But the words of a classic Russian military text is unambiguous. On page 302 of the RAND translation of "Soviet Military Strategy" it says:

In a future war, the socialist coalition will aim at conclusive political and military goals. To attain those goals, it will not be enough just to destroy the enemy’s means of nuclear attack, to defeat his main forces by missile blows and to disorganize his rear. For final victory … it will be absolutely necessary to smash the enemy’s armed forces completely, deprive him of strategic areas of deployment, liquidate his military bases, and occupy his strategically important regions.

The Russian text goes on to state: “For this reason, the Ground Forces will undoubtedly play an important role, along with the missile forces, in achieving the final goals of the war.” Col. Lunev emphasized three points in his 1999 revelation about Russia’s plan for World War III. First, it is the union of Russian missile power with the Chinese foot soldier that offers a war-winning military combination. Second, America cannot resist this combination because the Russian missiles, in destroying the infrastructure needed to support highly modernized military forces, pave the way for the ascendancy of numerically superior but poorly supplied Chinese divisions. Third, by using port facilities in the Western Hemisphere the Chinese are presently preparing the logistical bases needed to support an invasion of the lower 48 states.

It is no accident that Chinese front companies control port facilities on both ends of the Panama Canal. It is not without strategic significance that China is building the largest container port on earth in the Bahamas. The Chinese interest in gaining footholds in the Western Hemisphere is related to a clearly developed plan in which Chinese troops have the main responsibility for occupying strategic ground.

Recently China’s Commission on Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense (COSTIND), together with the research department of the People’s Liberation Army, stated that shipbuilding is a “strategic industry” for China. According to the July 2001 issue of the U.S. Naval Institute’s Proceedings magazine, China’s efforts to dominate shipping and control commercial ports must be viewed within a strategic military framework.

Americans should know that the penetration of U.S. port facilities by Chinese entities is ultimately grounded in military science, not commercial greed. Last summer a CIA source confirmed that 22 Chinese freighters off-loaded a large quantity of military supplies in Mexico. What is this all about?

Because of the destructiveness of nuclear war, existing supply bases in Russia and China may not escape destruction. Consequently, alternate supply depots must be set up in neutral countries and on American soil (if possible). In this context, the Red Dawn scenario is no fantasy and Col. Stanislav Lunev is no idle talker.

Russia is a traditional blood and iron power based on the predator’s code. History shows that the Kremlin is ruthless. Animated by a national inferiority complex compounded by economic envy, Russian leaders dream of revenge. And so do the leaders of China. As for detente, "engagement," or whatever the latest appeasement might be called, the words of Dryden apply:

Thus in a pageant show a plot is made
And peace itself is war in masquerade.

As Stalin once said, "A diplomat's words must contradict his deeds -- otherwise, what sort of diplomat is he?" In 1936 William C. Bullitt, America's first ambassador to Soviet Russia, described Kremlin policy in the following terms:

[Russia] will not, in good faith, enter into any international agreements which have as their object improvement of the general economic condition of the world. It will, on the contrary, try to produce as much chaos as possible in the economies of capitalist countries in the hope that misery may beget communist revolution.

Consider, as well, the words of the Czech disinformation expert who defected many years ago, Zdzislaw M. Rurarz:

[Russia] is contemptuous of any treaty obligations that no longer serve its purposes. At the same time, it knows democratic countries cannot follow its example of blatantly violating valid treaties. The arms control talks and ensuing accords are exploited by … [Russia] for its own ends, and the lengthy process encourages deception and disinformation practices.

Wasn't it Lenin who wrote in 1905 that, “Promises are like pie crusts, made to be broken”? Yet President Bush, when he met Russian President Vladimir Putin last June, said: “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul.”

A better sense of Putin's soul can be found in a televised speech given by the Russian president on June 22 of last year. On the sixtieth anniversary of Hitler’s attack on Russia, President Putin offered a stern warning to his people. The fascists are still out there, he said. “They still emit their poison in different parts of the earth.”

Dressed in a black suit, Putin hinted at future international dangers. “To this day,” Putin warned, “the world has not rid itself of ideologies that teach extreme nationalism, religious fanaticism and the idea of world dominance.”

I believe that this former KGB officer and one-time chief of Russia’s secret police was manipulating his listeners. After brutally smashing Chechnya he casts an envious glance toward the United States and its naïve president, George W. Bush. “The roots of fascism,” said Putin, “are far from eradicated.”

The shopworn Russian image of America as a fascist republic, run by racists and greedy capitalists, was subliminally evoked by Putin. And it was a performance that took place only one week after Putin’s first summit meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush.

On June 22, Putin reminded the Russian people that Hitler’s invasion cost over 20 million Russian lives. "No one will understand Russia,” he said, “until they know what our people lived through in the war, what experience they gained at the front. Nor would they understand our special feeling toward the Army and the defenders of the fatherland.”

A week earlier Putin had been smiling and joking with President Bush. “You named your daughters after your mother and mother-in-law,” said Putin to his American counterpart. “Well, so did I.” (See how much we have in common, Mr. President!)

But the reality is not so chummy. Putin looked into the Russian television cameras on June 22 and evoked that moment, in 1941, when “the people made their choice.” Putin was complimenting the Russians on their warlike resolve: “In this moment of danger the people chose to defend their fatherland to the last. They would not give up their homeland to the enemy.”

Putin told the Russian people that destructive war is an ever-present possibility. He summoned the memory of 20 million dead. "This is a day of mourning,” Putin explained, “but also a day of warning, a reminder.” And why should this reminder be relevant in 2001?

When Vladimir Putin was Prime Minister of Russia in 1999, the former chief of Russian military intelligence went on television to say that NATO was like the Third Reich. He told the Russian people to remember 1941, that history was repeating itself. This note of warning has appeared in the Russian media many times since.

This kind of talk by Russian officials indicates that a special psychology is at work behind Russian politics. It is a psychology that looks forward to the next war (though it pretends to crave peace). Americans will have trouble understanding this. After the practicality of a Third World War was questioned during a seminar, Col. Lunev once explained to a group of Americans in Washington that his entire 30-year career in the Russian military was focused on one thing: future nuclear world war with the United States. How would that war be fought? According to Lunev, Russia would provide the missile forces and China would provide the expendable ground forces. As the main target of Russian-Chinese military strategy, the United States would have to be invaded and occupied for final victory.

Veteran CIA analyst and congressional military advisor Peter Vincent Pry stated in a recent book, "War Scare: Russia and America on the Nuclear Brink,"

I have personally been on the receiving end of Russian nuclear threats over NATO expansion. In 1997 and again in 1998, a high-ranking Russian official, who has requested anonymity, warned me that NATO enlargement could trigger a nuclear war. The Russian official, claiming knowledge of military contingency plans ... said it was his personal view that these plans would be implemented....

Given these facts, is a Chinese invasion of North America as outlandish as Art Bell assumes?

In August 1998 I asked Col. Lunev if China allied with Russia could defeat the U.S. His answer was an unequivocal "yes." Given that Lunev's training teaches that victory is impossible without occupying the ground, his answer can only suggest one thing. Chinese troops on U.S. soil is not far-fetched at all.

sherry
in support
Fri May 17 22:38:59 2002
65.68.207.60

Anyone ever been to Sherman Skolnick's website?

Check it out---www.skolnicksreport.com

He has a 3-part series on Wal-Mart and The Chinese
here's the link-have fun

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/rcsp.html

Pam Schuffert
Fools and Blind! NWO American Leaders INVITE China IN!
Fri May 17 19:29:09 2002
206.203.52.213

And just HOW long are the American people going to keep retreaing into false "safety-comfort-denial" zones over our nation's NWO-loving leaders who have already sold out our nation to Russian, Chinese and other foreign troops and the world globalist NWO agenda???

How LONG will we retreat into denial THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD OUT TO CHINA AND RUSSIA AND WORLD GLOBALISM, as we receive reports of CHINA already sending America thousands of PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES, and modern guillotines built into each one, in the form of 40 foot cargo containers that havebeen arriving on the west coast for quite some time now??? Chinese troops have been arriving in America and been prepositioned in this nation in wilderness regions, and also in Canada as well.

For example, Pastor David J. Smith of NEWSWATCHMAGAZINE.ORG received a report of 1,500 Chinese troops in full uniform being disgorged into the Alleghany National Forest of Pennsylvania not long ago.

And from one military watchdog group, I got the report that the BBC, when interviewing Chinese naval forces training in the Strait of Formosa, asked them what they were preparing for. The Chinese reply, faithfully recorded by BBC producers and aired in England afterward, was plain:

"WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE INVASION OF AMERICA!" And certainly NOT without the full understanding and knowledge of our traitorous world globalist leaders in this nation being fully aware of what China is preparing to do!

You see...the New World Order elements in America will GRATEFULLY accept ALL help in bringing Americans down under world globalism, Chinese and Russian assistance welcomed!

I have reiterated again and again: Americans cannot comprehend the level to which they HAVE BEEN UTTERLY BETRAYED BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY...right into the hands of the enemy of our freedoms and liberty. I never could, EXCEPT for my in-depth research to uncover such hidden agendas and to expose them.
So desperate are these Illuminati NWO madmen to implement their agenda in this nation, theat they will GRATEFULLY accept ALL help from nations such as Russia and China and others, to help subdue and round-up America's resisters of the NWO.

NO Chinese troops will paratroop onto America soil AT THIS POINT, without undoubtedly the full blessing and knowledge of the NWO elements in our government and military...all safely hunkered down in their Deep Underground Military Bases and places of safety survival like Mt. Weather, VA...even as we peons and "resisters of the NWO" on the surface get nuked, chem-bio'ed, chipped, rounded up, and eventually eliminated.

But I predict that Russia and China will eventually go far beyond any agreements with NWO American leaders, and move right on with THEIR world communist agenda of all-out war on the West...even as they have planned for decades. They know that it is time to strike when the iron is hot...and a nation divided against itself, as under martial law, cannot stand. When America is weakened by division through martial law, I believe that this will soon be followed by all out atack from Russia and China. I have worked with Russians too long now, to NOT understand and know their mind set in this. And the communist world agenda that they have lusted to finally bring forth for decades.

-Pam Schuffert
www.AmericanHolocaust.50megs.com
Ron Garon
God has ALWAYS allowed ...
Fri May 17 15:54:23 2002
192.204.130.223



But you know what America, God has ALWAYS allowed a nations enemy to overtake and kill / oppress them... When they forgot God, and turned to idolatry and corruption... just a clue... "it rains on the just and unjust alike" yet God is faithful and merciful... WAKE UP AMERICA...

Ron

Storm
Re: God has ALWAYS allowed ...
Fri May 17 18:10:19 2002
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Say's it all.
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Ron Garon
America Yet Stands...
Fri May 17 15:46:07 2002
192.204.130.223


Again.... Go to our website... www.americanholocaust.50megs.com

Yes, it's so big, even I don't know where anything is there anymore... somewhere by the New UN / FEMA map of America towards the 2nd half, you will see that we live
in FEMA "Region 6" in the Bible belt. That has already been diced up and given to the Red Chinese to control. Remember the Russian trains and engineers being trained in Texas? We are a sleepy, doubting, unbelieving nation, and who gets all the flack for all the work we do... The Nutty Conspiracy Theorists.... someday, someday....ALL Conspiracy Theorists, who spoke the truth, and published the truth... will be vindicated...

Ron

America Yet Stands... Praise God and be Thankful!!!

Ron Garon
Don't Get So Excited Over Speculation and.... Fairytales!!!
Fri May 17 15:35:11 2002
192.204.130.223



The sad part is, we CANNOT do Anything prematurly or rashly, and we will have to wait until they blanket the nation with aerial spraying, kill the grids, earthquakes, and move in, in mass... sounds like stacking the cards wrongly to me, and oh... don't get so excited over speculation and fairytales...!!!