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Subj:	Fwd: German Pilots
Date:	10/11/01 7:43:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
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Subj:	German Pilots
Date:	10/10/01 6:22:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	Patriot573@cs.com
To:	MyTWaryor4JC

Pam you were right German pilots will be flying the AWACS

Mike Lewis


Subj:	Fwd: Transcript of David Schippers interview with Alex Jones
Date:	10/11/01 10:55:12 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Subj:	Transcript of David Schippers interview with Alex Jones
Date:	10/10/01 9:50:14 PM Pacific Standard Time


Subj:	Fwd: UN Pilots to Protect Americans?
Date:	10/11/01 11:09:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
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Subj:	UN Pilots to Protect Americans?
Date:	10/10/01 6:13:33 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	Patriot573@cs.com
To:	Patriot573@cs.com

If foreign pilots want to help then they need to go to Afghanistan. We don't need them. What's next UN Troops to confiscate our guns to protect us from them?

ML

European Pilots to Protect US Skies
By RICHARD GREEN

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - European pilots will help protect U.S. skies for the first time starting Friday, flying five AWACS planes that are being deployed to Tinker Air Force base from a NATO base in Germany.

``They will be defending the homeland, flying combat air patrol,'' Air Force Capt. Steven Rolenc said. ``They will be providing the capabilities that AWACS brings to the fight.''

The Airborne Warning and Control Systems aircraft are used to monitor battles on the ground or threats in the air. U.S. pilots will also be involved in the air patrols.

The airplanes began arriving Tuesday from Geilenkirchen, Germany, Rolenc said. They will be accompanied by a Boeing 707 used to transport personnel and their equipment.

President Bush said in an appearance with Lord Robertson, the NATO secretary general, that the AWACS aircraft will be flying over the continental United States by Friday.

``This has never happened before, that NATO has come to help defend our country. But it happened in this time of need, and for that, we're grateful,'' Bush said.

Responsibility for defense of U.S. and Canadian air space lies with the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD. The AWACS planes will bolster NORAD patrols instituted after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.

NATO is assisting the United States in its war against terrorism under the organization's Article 5, which states that an attack on one member of the alliance is an attack on all. NATO has also used AWACS airplanes in Bosnia and the Balkans to assist in air operations.

``We work with NATO all the time,'' Rolenc said. ``We exercise with them. We train with them.''

Tinker's 552nd Air Control Wing, which has 28 AWACS airplanes and 3,400 military members, is participating in the U.S. military action in Afghanistan.

The exact number of people deployed was not released. Tinker's 970th Airborne Air Control Squadron and 507th Air Refueling Wing, both reserve units, were also activated.

10/10/01 19:07


Subj:	Fwd: Transcript of David Schippers interview with Alex Jones
Date:	10/11/01 11:12:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
To:	Albertoaic

Attack on OK CITY???Check this out!

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Subj:	Transcript of David Schippers interview with Alex Jones
Date:	10/10/01 9:50:14 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: spiker@ev1.net (spiker)

Schippers: Government Had Prior Knowledge Key Points:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bc4dfde166e.htm

The FBI knows another terrorist attack is being planned now in Oklahoma
City - attack site unknown.
The FBI has and is prohibiting their agents or local police from taking
known terrorists into custody.
An Iraqi terrorist cell is involved and was involved in the Oklahoma City
bombing.
Ashcroft and members of Congress aren't listening.

Contact your members of Congress and ask them why?

In the following interview, reference to Iraqi terrorists refers to Iraqi
Republican Guard resettled near Oklahoma City by former Pres. George Bush
after the Gulf War.

David Schippers Interview Alex Jones Radio Show Oct. 10, 2001 (in progress)

DS: ....in Oklahoma City and, frankly, when I first heard the information,
I just poo-pooed it, as did everybody else - they thought here comes
another one of those crazy conspiracy theories, you know. The woman who is
a former investigative reporter down in Oklahoma City wrote to me after I
came back from Washington and just, you know - congratulations - you did a
hell of a job. I wrote back and the next thing you know she wrote back
again and told me that she had information indicating a middle eastern
connection. I called her at that point and just for my own conscious if
there was something out there I'd want to find out about it - she began to
tell me what she had and she sent me a short summary - a couple of pages -
laying out what she had garnered during her investigations. It really
piqued by interest. So I asked her if she had more. She said yes she had
an awful lot of stuff, but she wouldn't want to send it up through the mail
or any other way. So she and her husband flew up to Chicago and brought a
mass of information - I mean affidavits, all kinds of things.

AJ: And we've had Col. Craig Roberts, who was a detective working the case
on this show many times, a month before attack, predicting one was
imminent. He has all that same information. They actually arrested some
of these guys and the Justice Dept. in 1995 said to release them.

DS: That's right - and the words out today that they are not even allowed
to touch them, the Oklahoma City police are not allowed to touch these
people. And from what I'm understanding, they are up to something again in
Oklahoma City. I don't know what it is or what their target is but these
same people are at it again. The terrible thing here else, something that
few people know that there was a warning sent out. Have you ever heard of
Ysolf Bodansky (sp)?

AJ: Yes.

DA: He is the guy that wrote the book about Bin Laden. He was hooked up
with some Congressional leaders in the House - kind of an unofficial, for
lack of a better word, a strike force, a task force on terrorism.
They sent out a warning on February 19, 1995, saying there was going to be
a massive attack by the terrorists in the heartland of the United States
and it was going to be a federal facility. Everybody ignored it. By the
way, I have seen that warning, I have seen that warning. I don't have it
in front of me so I can't go into the specifics of it too heavily but at
the same time, there was in that warning that there was going to be a
massive attack in Washington - it took them six years to do it. The
targets were going to be Washington, the White House and the Capitol
Building. - And that they were going to use airliners to attack them.

AJ: Now later you got it from FBI agents in Chicago and Minnesota that
there was going to an attack on lower Manhattan.

DS: Yea - and that's what started me calling. I started calling out
there. First of all, I tried to see if I could get a Congressman to go to
bat for me and at least bring these people out there and listen to them. I
sent them information and nobody cared. It was always, "We'll get back to
you", "we'll get back to you", "we'll get back to you."
Then I reached out and tried to get to the Attorney General, when finally
we got an attorney general in there that I would be willing to talk
to. And, again, I used people who were personal friends of John Ashcroft
to try to get him. One of them called me back and said, "Alright I have
talked to him. He will call you tomorrow morning." This was like a month
before the bombing. The next morning I got a call. It wasn't from
Ashcroft. It was from somebody in the Justice Dept.

AJ: One of his handlers.

DS: Yea, and I started telling him the situation and he said, "You know we
don't start our investigations at the top." I said I would like to talk to
the Attorney General because this is vital. He said, "We don't start our
investigations at the top. Let me look into this and I will get back to
you." As I sit here today, I have never heard from him.

AJ: Again, David Schippers, you are big in Washington, you were the top
lawyer that got Clinton impeached, you are highly respected, you know the
Senators, the Congressmen. You're calling up. You've got these FBI agents
and others feeding you this information. They're being pulled off the
cases, they're angry. That's even been in the news now, from Minnesota and
Florida and Illinois. They know what's going to happen. The Sudanese in
'96 and '98 tried to arrest Bin Laden for Clinton, tried to give us the
names of Al Qaeda, Clinton wouldn't take it.

DS: Didn't want any part of it.

AJ: Wouldn't touch it. So we've got all this developing. We've got police
officers and FBI on the ground who know who bombed Oklahoma City. They've
got them in custody with blue jogging suits and bomb-making
components. They are ordered to release them. All of this is unfolding -
3500 to 5000 Iraqi Republican Guard (living near OKC), we know there is a
Saddam/Iraqi connection here - I mean they knew this. Why in the world,
David Shippers, did they allow this to take place?

DS: I'll tell you something. This one of the things that, to me, it is
almost inconceivable, inconceivable that with the knowledge they had that
they would turn their back. Just assume that they had investigated and
gone in after the Oklahoma City bombing , as they are going now. There
never would have been an attack on the Trade Towers. If they had done, 5
to 6 years ago what they are doing now, there probably would have had Bin
Laden and that gang all stopped by now. But, I don't know, as a human
being, as a former prosecutor, as a lawyer and a guy who represents police
and agents all over the United States, it is inconceivable to me that those
bureaucrats in Washington would turn their back on the obvious for their
own purposes.

AJ: And now the World Trade Center Complex is absolutely destroyed.

DS: Yes, 6000 people are dead. And there is more coming. There is more
coming.

AJ: Now you say, from your sources, I know you represent a bunch of FBI
agents who are hopping mad, you probably can't talk about the specifics,
you say you are representing them. Are they getting ready to sue or something?

DS: Well they are hoping to, but what do you sue for? What I'm trying to
do is get the people in Washington - you see these agents can't come
out. The only information that I have is information that is public
knowledge. They can't tell me anything that is confidential or anything
that is secret, or anything like that. I'm talking about what is public
knowledge and these guys can't say anything unless they are subpoenaed.

AJ: That's why you want to get into a court.

DS: I don't want to get into a court. I want to get them into the
intelligence committee. I want to get them to talk to the Attorney
General, to Gov. Ridge, to General Downing or to somebody who has the
ability or the authority to go to the FBI bureaucrats and say "Butt out!" -
we are going to do this right.

AJ: I'm sure you are aware that on the History Channel, they are reporting
that we had prior knowledge of the Japanese attack and they allowed that to
take place.

DS: Sure.

AJ: And now you see the UN empowered, the World Court empowered. It looks
like the UN is going to get to take over that oil supply in Central
Asia. The face scanning cameras - now they are on the fast track.
This has sure brought the police state into a lot more focus.

DS: It sure has. I've been saying for years that once you have license,
the next step is tyranny. It really is scary. The whole thing is
scary. Remember the Palmer raids when they had the Reds scare in the early
twentieth century and they just went out and rounded up everybody and threw
them in jails and deported them. Our freedoms took a real hit. I hope to
God that we don't run into the same thing this time. The people are
saying, "I want to be safe." Who was it, Ben Franklin said if you give up
your liberties for security, you will eventually lose both your liberties
and your security.

AJ: Absolutely.

AJ: We're talking to David Schippers. We're discussing FBI agents across
the country having prior knowledge of the attacks, trying to get these guys
arrested or even to get a warrant, knowing they were associates of Bin
Laden, others being trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, Clinton not
wanting the names of Al Queda when they had the chance, there is so much
evidence of prior knowledge. How did this happen with the Bush
administration, when you are trying to get to Ashcroft and telling them
that they is a plan to attack lower Manhattan very soon and what was the
intel you were getting from these agents?

DS: Well, a lot of this wasn't coming from the agents. When the bomb hit
(WTC attack) and everybody said we have to find the money (trail) and stop
the money. The only place the money was actually identified and stopped
was in Chicago. There was actually a lawsuit, a case filed here in
Chicago, in which money that had been earmarked for Hamas, to be used for
terrorism, was grabbed by the United States government - and seized and
forfeited, and that was here in Chicago.

AJ: But that agent had to go through a lot of grief to get that done.

DS: An agent actually filed the affidavit. I'm not talking about anything
that is confidential. This agent here in Chicago filed the affidavit where
he laid out the whole way that the money moves, the way that it is handled,
how it comes out of the middle east into Chicago area and into the United
States, how it is covered, how the operatives are covered, how the money is
transferred back and where it's kept while its here. And that affidavit
ran like 30 pages - laying it out.
And he had to go through hell on earth in Washington, he had to fight like
a tiger - everybody in his own bureau and in the Dept. of Justice was
against him - and still is.

AJ: Now the FBI agents in Minnesota knew about this and had the evidence
but they couldn't even get a wiretap or a warrant to search these guys.

DS: Exactly.

AJ: We're talking about some of the actual hijackers.

DS: Exactly. And this woman who was talking to me, she had other contacts,
who were in Naval Intelligence and other areas, and she was reporting that
there was one of these terrorists who was involved in the bombing in
Oklahoma City - was working at the Boston airport. A friend of mine who
happens to be an agent had information that there were Hamas operatives
working in baggage and areas at O'Hare Airport with free access to any part
of the airport. But no one would listen. They just said it's not true, it
can't happen that way. I'll tell you something. I don't know if it was
because Clinton and his boys didn't want the United States to realize that
Flight 800 was a terrorist attack and that Oklahoma City was a terrorist
attack because they didn't want to admit that the intelligence of the
United States was totally destroyed.

AJ: Well Craig Roberts says it best. They wanted to demonized the patriot
organizations and create this internal security force to watch Americans....

DS: Exactly.

AJ: because the "precious Arabs", they can't do anything wrong.

DS: And that's exactly what they started. I forget which nitwit it was
that came out and said you can blame the Rush Limbaugh's and the talk show
hosts who are fomenting this terror.

AJ: That was Bill Clinton.

DS: Yea, Clinton made that statement. And they had a handy guy in
McVeigh. I also know from affidavits that I have read that there were
eyewitnesses who saw the middle eastern man running from the scene (OKC
bombing) along side McVeigh.

AJ: And why don't the feds just release those 12 surveillance camera tapes
if it is just McVeigh alone?

DS: Those surveillance camera tapes are going to show that there was a
middle eastern man running with him. Some of these people who gave
affidavits were interviewed by the FBI during the course of the
investigation. They were interviewed about the second person that they saw
and the agents tried to make them say or suggested to them that the second
person was Nichols.
Every single one of these people said absolutely not, it was a
middle-eastern type individual.

AJ: Al Hussani (sp)

DS: Now, listen to this. None of those investigative reports; none of
those 302s have ever surfaced. So the FBI comes up with all these
thousands of documents which they claimed they overlooked but the key ones
where they tried to get them to say it was Nichols never surfaced.

AJ: It is so important that all of you out there contact your
representatives, contact the White House, contact the Justice Dept. and say
talk to David Schippers. He's a man we can trust who helped get Clinton
impeached. Talk about a dangerous job - who then wrote a book detailing
the black mail, the intimidation by Clinton in the Senate. And now we find
out that weeks and months before he had the news, the feds, the
investigators telling him these terrorists are all over the place ... Now
David Shippers, the knowledge, the information, you told me yesterday on
the phone that it was lower Manhattan, months before, you are trying to get
into see Ashcroft, they wouldn't let you do it. What were the reports you
were getting about the attack on lower Manhattan?

DS: The original report that I got was that they had arranged for three
attacks on the United States - one, they were going to take down an
airline; two, they were going to attack a federal facility in the heartland
of the United States; and the third one was going to be a massive attack in
lower Manhattan.

AJ: The first was TWA 800, then Oklahoma City...

DS: The original intelligence that was reported to me, and this was not
first hand obviously, that the original plan was a suitcase nuclear weapon.

AJ: Now we gotten that from Col. Roberts and a bunch of other people...

DS: I've ran into a lot of nuts who came up with a not of strange theories,
outer space, and things like that. But these people who I was talking to
were very, very credible people. For example, Jayna Davis took everything
she had ...

AJ: Tell us who she is, one more time...for those who just tuned in

DS: She was an investigative reporter working for a TV station in Oklahoma
City at the time of the bombing.

AJ: And they had these very middle-eastern Bin Laden, Saddam minions,
interviewing these guys.

DS: Yes, absolutely. She identified by the name the guy who was the
one. Recently, she came up with some evidence that another guy there
actually admitted that he was part of the World Trade Center bombing.
He's still walking around. I mean they are taking people into custody,
they are offering rewards, but these guys are still there and still doing
their little thing.

AJ: That's the point I'm trying to make. The government has their names,
knows who the cells are, the 3500 Iraqi....

DS: I don't know if they do because when Jayna had all this material.. I'm
talking about 3 giant loose-leaf binders full of affidavits and other
material. This woman did a job of investigating that would make the Mossad
look bad.

AJ: The New York Times came in and bought up her TV station and got rid of her.

DS: Well, they bought up the TV station and got rid of her and also tried
to make her turn over notes and films and stuff like that but she beat them
court. She's still got them.

AJ: Here's the bottom line question. The attack on lower Manhattan, the
third big attack.
We know you tried to get to the Attorney General. What did you say?

DS: My first move was to go through some of the people that I knew in
Congress because I was working on two fronts. On the one hand I wanted to
get someone to listen to Jayna about Oklahoma City; on the other hand, I
was trying to get someone to understand that Hamas has infiltrated the
United States so thoroughly that I don't how long it will take to run them
out. All over the United States. They had a training camp for terrorism
at Chicago.

AJ: There is a mosque at UT for the young Islamics, they raise money for
terrorism right there. And nothing is being done.

DS: Bill O'Reilly had that guy from southern Florida University that raised
money for Hamas. And whenever you mention Hamas, everybody says it's a
humanitarian organization.

AJ: No, they're not.

DS: They're humanitarian like Hitler was humanitarian. They are terrorists
and they will never be anything but terrorists.

AJ: And we are not supposed to criticize these people.

DS: No, you can't say anything. I just heard about the young man whose
sister was injured in the World Trade Center and he put up an American flag
and some American slogans on his locker at school. They gave him a ten-day
suspension because they said it might be offensive to some of the Arab
students.

AJ: They are saying the American flag is racist.

DS: Isn't that lovely.

AJ: Let's stop the evil American flag from being flown at your business or
at your university, but let's leave the Hamas people alone.

DS: You know the guy that cut the throat of that bus driver in Tennessee
was here on a one-month visa and he had overstayed his visa by what - a
year and a half, two years. Until somebody starts listening, I'm telling
you, I see on television, I see them saying that the president has said
that these tapes that are coming from Bin Laden may very well be signals or
codes to terrorists in the United States.

AJ: And why is every network running them?

DS: Bingo. You tell me. When they say that they may very well be signals,
he can give all the signals he wants in Pakistan and Afghanistan but if the
American networks don't carry it, then they won't out. But the American
networks are saying that people have a right to know.

AJ: And they are calling for more attacks on the tapes.

DS: Yea, the latest tape specifically made reference to the heart of the
United States.

AJ: Yea, attack the heartland - you said your intel or your sources....

DS: They are doing something down there in Oklahoma City. The folks in
Oklahoma City tell me they are up to something.
There are deliveries being made, there is material being moved and places
being opened... One of the methods they use to cover their operatives
while in the States is they set up some garbage or a pretend garage - or a
filling station where they can all allegedly work. But they're not working
there, it's not really a garage, it's just a location to cover them.

I tried the House, I tried the Senate, I tried the Dept. of Justice, I
didn't go to the FBI because I know there is a roadblock there and I didn't
go to the Justice Dept. until Ashcroft got in there because I know there's
roadblocks out there. These are the very people who put up roadblocks on
the attack against the terrorists under Clinton, they are still
there. They still constitute, almost like moat, between the people with
information and the people who should hear the information.

AJ: Well we know that Clinton released 16 members of the FALN.

DS: Sure. Well he had to win New York didn't he? He had to win New York
for Hillary.

AJ: So when you are talking to these people at the Dept. of Justice, folks
at Congress, what do they say?

DS: They say, that's wonderful, we'll get right back to you. I have never
got a call back. I was on a radio program out east, Pittsburgh, and I just
hinted that the FBI was sitting on information when they should have been
sharing it with others and, as a result, there was a breakdown in
intelligence. And the next morning, I got a call from the office of the
Speaker of the House, who happens to be an Illinois Republican.

AJ: Hastert.

DS: Yes, Hastert. They hadn't heard the show but they said we understand
you've got some information, etc. I said, yes I do, I would really like to
share it with somebody. I have at least two and maybe three witnesses that
should be subpoenaed to come out there and testify in executive session and
tell you what I was talking about. Ok. We'll get back to you. Never heard
from them. Couple of days later, I got a call from the Senate Intelligence
Committee. We hear that you've got information, etc. Yes, I have
information and I'd be perfectly willing to bring it out to you. I'd be
perfectly willing to have my witnesses go in there and testify but they
have to be subpoenaed. And by the way, I will not talk to staffers because
the staffers don't tell the Congressman what they found out. Ok, we'll get
back to you. That was last week, I still haven't heard from them.

AJ: So bottom line - and my intelligence sources who were police officers
who actually worked the case, FBI who worked the OKC bombing case, grand
jury witnesses, are saying they are getting ready for something big, not
just in Oklahoma, but out on the West Coast as well. That's the intel I'm
getting and nothing is being done. They are just talking about national ID
cards, face scanning, troops with no bullets in the airports, they are not
going to arm the pilots, this is sick!

DS: The whole thing is unbelievable. You know, I talk to people who are in
the media, people who are well aware of what is going on and they cannot
believe that this is happening.

AJ: Can we get you on the O'Reilly factor to talk about this?

DS: I've been on O'Reilly but not to talk about this. You know Jayna was
on twice and she laid it out. She got a call and she said that Dave
Shippers was representing her - so I think that might have precipitated a
call from someone in Washington who immediately said I'll get back to you
and that was the end of it. Strangely enough, the one group I haven't
heard from is the FBI intelligence people. Of course, if I did hear from
them I wouldn't talk to them anyhow, because they are totally incompetent.

AJ: They got their funding tripled after OKC bombing....

DS: Sure, that's great and they can all sit around and tell everybody that
their informants told them this or that. They are running around grabbing
people they should have grabbed 5 years ago.

AJ: What are your sources saying about the Oklahoma City area?

DS: That somebody is up to something down there. I know of phone calls
going to Iraq from some of these guys. I know of phone calls from one of
the known, one of the named terrorists by the FBI, he is making calls to a
place that is identical to one of the people that I am talking about. In
other words, same place...

AJ: Did you see Bush show pictures of Bin Laden's minions?

DS: Yes, the most wanted.

AJ: But we have people involved, fingered, witnesses on tape there at the
Oklahoma City bombing at the scene, later apprehended with the jogging
suits, with the materials, then told to be released by the Justice
Dept. back in '95.

DS: They don't want any part of it. Jayna's got the original police radio
calls. And in the original calls, it said to be on the lookout for this
truck that was being driven by a middle-eastern type individual. That was
the original one and I remember, at one point, one police officer called in
and said by whose authority do we stop this guy.
And they said: authority FBI, Oklahoma City. Then shortly thereafter, the
all-points-bulletins stopped and there was never another word.

Remember how they said that he (McVeigh) had been with a militant group in
Michigan and how we all have to hunker down because they crazy right wing
maniacs are liable to do anything. Nobody wanted to tell it like it was
because it would turn out that the crazy rightwing maniacs were right all
along.

AJ: And had been warning people about the threat.

DS: Yea.

AJ: So where does it go from here?

DS: Well, I'm still trying, I'm still trying to get somebody to listen to
me out there and to listen to my witnesses - and to, at least, take the
material. You know, Jayna Davis, took the same stuff she showed me and
walked into the FBI at Oklahoma City and said here, I have all this
material, it may be of some assistance to you. They said, we don't want
it. They refused to even take it.

AJ: You can see the motive. I see more intelligence funding, I see the
cashless society with biometrics, I see an expanded UN, I see NATO planes
patrolling our skies, I see global government being empowered and a
takeover of the middle east and Central Asia. I see great dividends for
them by allowing this to happen.

DS: I hope to God that you're wrong, I do. I can't fight or argue with you
because it does seem to be heading that way.
However, I think the problem is that they covered up the TWA 800 bombing,
they covered up the Oklahoma City bombing, but when the whole world watched
those two planes hit the Towers, there is no way they could blame that on a
local group.
They have to get into it now and I think - I'm not talking about Ashcroft
or the president, I'm not talking about the street agent.
They are the greatest men on the face of the earth, as far as I'm concerned
- the FBI street agent, the guys out there going door to door. AJ: Yea,
but in Minnesota they did they job...

DS: Sure and they got hurt for it. AJ: and they got pulled off the case.

DS: And in Chicago, they did their job and they got pulled off the
case. And down in Oklahoma City, you've got those three agents. And what
did they do? The method by which they stopped them. They bring some
garbage charge against them and then say well they are dissidents. They
try to affect their credibility by that.

AJ: For trying to protect their country, the heroes get crucified.

DS: The heroes get crucified and the bureaucrats sit out there and tell
each other what a great job they are doing until another city blows
up. And then they say, they need more tools. They have all the tools in
the world. They could have found the money (trail) years ago if they had
just listened. Sorry, if I sound mad, I am.

AJ: No, I'm angry too. They've got biologicals, they've got
chemicals. They've got suitcase nukes. As you said, that was the original
plan. It could happen any time - from the same sources that you have that
I have. David Schippers, I can only commend you for going public with this
because you do have so much credibility.

DS: We've got to go public. We tried to do it the right way, we tried to
do it by going to the people in whom you would normally repose your
confidence and trust. It didn't work. Nobody cares.

Listen to the archive of the 10/10/01 Alex Jones Show, as David Schippers
says the Government had prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks.

Click below to listen
http://arc2.m2ktalk.com/alexam/101001.ram


Subj:	Fwd: MSNBC Reports Army on Alert to maintain Domestic Order
Date:	10/11/01 3:55:24 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
To:	Albertoaic
CC:	Patriot573@cs.com

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Subj:	MSNBC Reports Army on Alert to maintain Domestic Order
Date:	10/11/01 11:58:00 AM Pacific Standard Time

From: bpb123@earthlink.net (Brenda Pitts Bennett)
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net;;

Below is a response from a reporter friend about the article I sent him that is below his e mail.

Brenda Pitts Bennett

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MSNBC Reports Army on Alert to maintain Domestic Order

I am afraid that we will soon find out what "order" means. When the students were protesting in China's Tianemen Square, the State Department put out a release saying that they hoped that "stability would be maintained in the region." Within few hours of that announcement, the Chinese troops brought in from outside the region, began to maintain "order," and return "stability" to Tianemen Square. "Stability" was the code word that the Communist Chinese were waiting to hear, once they heard "Stability" pronounced by the Bush, senior, State Department, then they knew that they had a clear path to use whatever means necessary to quell the protests and insure the uninterrupted money machine of the multinational, New World Order corporations doing "business," and "trade," in Communist China. The federal government talks about hidden messages in the tapes released by Usama bin Laden. That is nonsense, but, perhaps the federal government is feeling their own guilt, because they have used code words in public statements in the past. What you have now is the merging of fascism and communism/socialism into a New World Order, referred to by former Secretary of State, as the "Third Way." Russia's Putin now subscribes to the "Third Way," following an enlightening telephone conversation with a proponent of the Third Way, Bill Clinton.

Michael

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Order

Now we must BEWARE of our water!

Subj: MSNBC Reports Army on Alert to maintain Domestic Order
Date: 10/9/01 2:12:01 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Socce10182
BCC: Shootingstarr4u

MSNBC has reported twice tonight that they have learned that "Select Army bases across the country are on two hour alert to Maintain Domestic Order" They definitely said maintain order and not maintain domestic security.    I have found this very disturbing especially coming on the same day that we get our new Homeland Security Chief. In light of the numerous peace marches that are being held across the country tomorrow and the rest of this week, is this the order they are going to maintain?
Priscilla

Subj: URGENT-Is Texas chemical hotspot NEXT target???

Date: 10/11/01 4:09:40 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: MyTWaryor4JC

To: Patriot573@cs.com

CC: Albertoaic

Urgent-Is this hot spot going to go up in flames???

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Subj: Re: [Awakened4JChrist] (From My City) SHELTER IN PLACE STUDY -CHEMICAL EMERGENCY

Date: 10/11/01 3:15:27 PM Pacific Standard Time

From:    Lone_Warrior@rovin.net (Kristina Webb)
Reply-to:    Lone_Warrior@rovin.net (Kristina Webb)
To:    Awakened4JChrist@yahoogroups.com

Are you in Texas??? This entire land I sit upon -over 75 mile radius-is sitting on gas pipelines...on top are petro-chemical plants off and on for 70 miles. I sit in the heart of the petro-chemical refineries of America. (Hey, it wasn't my choice! I had a good heart. I came o take care of my mother's-in-law bedridden, dying mom. She died ...now we can't move. I'm stuck in this hell hole! But it is a nice neighborhood atleast..Upper middle class. Not what I'm used to but I'm adjusting. It's taught me humblness more.)

The plant my husband works at is next to America's largest-Shell Oil! It sits along a port that extends to the Gulf. I sit one mile from Shell. YES, I'm ansy! Don't just barge into my house you might find a cap in you before you can shut the door! Feds are crawling in this place. I don't know what their doing but going to Mc D's a lot and sitting in their cars survelliencing. The plants have been given NO security other than the Coast Guard and feds. This means anyone who wants in by land can access easily! You'd think they'd have some armed guards checking ID's at atleast two points before being able to access the plant-ATLEAST so no one rams a truck into a plant! It would be tough by water --easier to by air as the jets RARELY fly by now!! YET, they tell us they've beefed up with so many extra reserves-over 10,000. WHERE are they?? Preping for martial law?? But hey Ellington AFB has awesome security. Have fun trying to get in! They are les than 10 miles from me. The City of Houston owns the base! What's the point of protecting a base so well when the largest threat is open as usual? Hello! Do they take us ALL for imbasols?

There are things I know, and all chem plant workers, about the security and accesssiablity that terrorists have to them thanks to the EPA!! Though for peace of mind I will not say. Besides I'd like to keep my husband! (Prayer would be appreciated!) Yet, we hear by the media we are being prepared, and, emergency planning, and security is being drawn up and is in full force. NO, no, no!! It's NOT!! NOTHING has been done over here to make the workers at the chemical plants or the community ready! Not one lousy thing! In fact, the plants have NOT even instructed the workers on what to do in the event of a local attack!!! How stupid is that? Yes, I'm upset! I guess they figure by logic that we'll just be nuked and there's no need to be concerned or waste the funds?? Makes sense.

Get this...NOT one person is stepping up to inquire! Brainwashed, incompentent, sheeple! We're packed, loaded and ready to move out in under 5 mins. If we gotta go you won't here from me.

Though I doubt we'll have time to roll out. But if there's a militray attack on US soil...I say shalom and may God be with you all! Am I paranoid? No, I'm realistic, frustrated, angry (on this issue), and being prudent. The media and government has done nothing but deceive the citizens. It is inevitable that she is falling fast. But who is listening? Oh and might I add that this area is on the highest state of alert!! How's that for security? Security just means brainwashing and stripping your rights! Atleast Yahweh I can count on! :) Soooo when and if you hear this place has gone up in a pillar of smoke you'll now know why--the bare minmum is what I have even told you. I wonder if I spoke though ifd there would be a crusade on Washington by the sheeple.

kris, a sheep with 'The Master'...not a sheeple with many masters

-----Original Message-----
From: MelandCleo from down the bayou Louisiana <melandcleo@mobiletel.com>
To: Awakened4JChrist@yahoogroups.com <Awakened4JChrist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Awakened4JChrist] (From My City) SHELTER IN PLACE STUDY -CHEMICAL EMERGENCY

Kristina....

    One of my friends worked for Texaco and showed me the map of oil and gas pipelines..down here in Terrebonne parish we are one big pipeline...

Do you know that so far we have not heard of any contengicy plans at all?? My hubby is Asst chief of the fire dept down here and they have not been told of any kind of training to do if we have an attack...

and we have so many oil platforms right under our butts? The gulf is 30 miles under my butt!

Mel

Give Satan an inch and he becomes your ruler

----- Original Message -----

From: Kristina Webb

To: Awakened4JChrist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:01 AM

Subject: [Awakened4JChrist] (From My City) SHELTER IN PLACE STUDY -CHEMICAL EMERGENCY

I live in Deer Park, Texas as many of you know. Deer Park is a large petro-chemical city. We have alarm drills, releases, emergencies, etc., regularly. In case of an incident of chemical warfare we'd be prepared. However, there are no standard procedures for most of the rest of the nation. Therefore, below you'll find an EXAMPLE of the bare minmum of what this city (and surrounding cities) do to be prepared for a chemical release and the aftermath. (As the media won't even give you that much!) You'll see it is similar to Jerry Golden's safe room. The following is a BASIC guide and more info should be researched. You may also try your local city emergency management offices. BUT understand this nation is not prepared for the range of attack that is inevitable. Be advised that in the likihood of a chemical attack gas masks will do you little good without the suit. And of course that's if you have it on in time. If you know its been sprayed put it on anyway. But just a mask will be virtually useless. It will still seep through your skin. Wear long sleeves, pants, scarf, etc. The point is to conceal ALL flesh. The mask will help prevent internal burning and you'll be able to breathe rather than suffocate immediately. (Sorry, my husband works at a chemical plant--I know.) You DON'T want the pain! So for that matter a gas mask would ease the troubles.In any case decontamination would be a must. So even if you have the suit do you have the decontamination suplies? The following is just a primer. kw

WHAT SHOULD I DO DURING A CHEMICAL EMERGENCY? (To read what is in place for such an attack in my city and to hear the sirens that are in place all over the city go here: http://www.deerparklepc.org/emerg.html)

Subj: Shocking new legislation makes many formerly innocent into "terrorists!"

Date: 10/11/01 4:26:07 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: MyTWaryor4JC

To: Albertoaic

CC: lone_warrior@rovin.net

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Subj: Beyond Shock! Reality Check

Date: 10/9/01 11:45:00 AM Pacific Standard Time

From:    bpb123@earthlink.net (Brenda Pitts Bennett)
To:    Undisclosed-Recipient:@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net;;

Beyond Shock! Citizens and Activists: Consider the
> > provisions in the new Senate Terrorist Bill 1510
> >
> > Consider these items in the new Senate Terrorist Bill
> > 1510:
> > "MONEY LAUNDERING ABATEMENT AND ANTI-TERRORIST
> > FINANCING ACT OF 2001"
> >
> >
> > Political Activists and Demonstrators should Zero in
> > on S.1510. The bill's provisions can be used to
> > eradicate public dissent - - and you!
> >
> > If you want to read this bill for yourself, go to
> > http://Thomas.loc.gov, to the 107th Congress, and
> > Senate Bill 1510.
> >
> >     Under Senate Bill 1510, now being considered in
> > the Senate as an Anti-terrorism act:
> >
> >   1.. An entire 501C3 organization or other
> > organization, including its members, can have their
> > assets seized for supporting "bodily acts" [did you
> > ever demonstrate at a rally? at a nuclear plant? for a
> > prisoner? etc.?] or international causes that the U.S.
> > Secretary of State may deem terrorist activity.
> > Political activities that were legal prior to S.1510
> > may "RETROACTIVELY" be deemed terrorist activity by
> > U.S. Government. Participants and supporters may be
> > charged with terrorist and other offenses, under this
> > bill as now drafted.
> >
> >
> > (2). S.1510 "RETROACTIVELY" abolishes the "Statue of
> > Limitations" for many past offenses in which no one
> > was injured. After passage of S.1510, any past offense
> > that can be broadly alleged to have put someone "at
> > risk" may be used by federal and state prosecutors to
> > charge a citizen with a terrorist act - even 30 years
> > after the Statute of Limitations period had already
> > passed. Government will have no difficulty
> > manufacturing evidence to prosecute citizens once
> > Constitutional safeguards against passing Retroactive
> > Laws are abolished by passage of S.1510.
> >
> >
> > (3) No "innocent owner defense" allowed against Asset
> > Forfeiture when: after passage of S 1510, U.S.
> > Government agencies will be able to seize assets of
> > citizens, 501C3 and other organizations and their
> > members without ever disclosing the evidence against
> > their property. Government need only allege that
> > disclosing such evidence may compromise National
> > security and/or an ongoing investigation. S 1510
> > provides for paying "unnamed informants" huge rewards
> > resulting from arrests and forfeited assets. It is
> > hard to believe any organization or citizen could ever
> > recover their assets once they are seized by a
> > government agency in the name of National Security.
> > That may include a citizen's home in which an
> > informant secretly alleges someone said the wrong
> > thing.
> >
> > (4) "D Below" is quoted, in part, from the Senate Bill
> > 1510.
> >
> > So much for trusting attorneys!
> >
> >
> > "(d) UNDERCOVER ACTIVITIES- Notwithstanding any
> > provision of State law, including disciplinary rules,
> > statutes, regulations, constitutional provisions, or
> > case law, a Government attorney may, for the purpose
> > of enforcing Federal law, provide legal advice,
> > authorization, concurrence, direction, or supervision
> > on conducting undercover activities, and any attorney
> > employed as an investigator or other law enforcement
> > agent by the Department of Justice who is not
> > authorized to represent the United States in criminal
> > or civil law enforcement litigation or to supervise
> > such proceedings may participate in such activities,
> > even though such activities may require the use of
> > deceit or misrepresentation, where such activities are
> > consistent with Federal law.
> >
> >
> > `(e) ADMISSIBILITY OF EVIDENCE- No violation of any
> > disciplinary, ethical, or professional conduct rule
> > shall be construed to permit the exclusion of
> > otherwise admissible evidence in any Federal criminal
> > proceedings".
> >
> >     This bill is similar to the one Adolf Hitler
> > pushed through the Reichstag after the Reichstag fire
> > in 1932. German Jews, horrified by the chaos in
> > Germany after the fire, supported Hitler's legislation
> > - then found he could (and planned to) use it against
> > them.
> >
> >     This is worse legislation than the Sedition Laws
> > of the 1790's, later declared unconstitutional and
> > leading to the end of John Adams' presidency.
> >
> >     Understand! Under the law as now written, you and
> > anyone connected with any organization - 501(c)(3),
> > church, Rotary, any organization - can be snagged
> > under this legislation. Lifting the Statute of
> > Limitations means that you could have your home and
> > other assets seized if you were a member of an
> > organization that supported, for example, Leonard
> > Peltier, or sent food or medicine to Cuba, or even
> > protested against nukes in the '60s - and the U.S.G.
> > decided that that organization was then or is now in
> > any way associated with someone or some organization
> > that is somehow connected to a "terrorist
> > organization."
> >
> >     Of course, it will be said that that is highly
> > unlikely to happen if you keep your nose clean - and
> > don't give financial or other support to any suspect
> > organization.
> > But who knows what is or later will be considered a
> > "suspect organization"? If this law is passed, as now
> > drafted, contributions to 501(c)(3) groups,
> > foundations, etc., will dry up as people realize that
> > by contributing anything - money, goods or services -
> > could make them subject to seizure of their person or
> > assets by the action - or alleged action - of any one
> > person in the organization to which they donate.
> >
> >     There are thousands of people in our prisons now,
> > put there by the testimony of paid/"rewarded"
> > informers. All it takes is for some such person to
> > provide "testimony" that the ACLU or the Sierra Club
> > or Pastors for Peace, or other organization is
> > "supporting" terrorists. Or maybe some member of such
> > an organization does provide support to a terrorist:
> > all members are liable to imprisonment and seizure of
> > their assets.
> >
> >     If this law passes in this form, kiss protest - by
> > letter or demonstration - and democracy goodbye!
> >
> >     Go to www.senate.gov or to
> > www.geocities.com/capitolhill/parliament/2398/fedmail.html
> > and send a note to your Senators and tell them to
> > kill this monstrosity before it becomes law. At least
> > to amend the darned thing!
> > Senator Daschle said yesterday that he expects this
> > bill to be brought up and passed THIS WEEK.    DO THIS
> > NOW!
> >
> >     And please forward this (or your own) message to
> > EVERYONE on your e-mail list.
> >
> >     May God protect what democracy we have left.

Subj: Fwd: Jack McLamb on "Pass The Salt" Saturday, 10/13/01

Date: 10/11/01 4:39:13 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: MyTWaryor4JC

To: Albertoaic

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Subj: Jack McLamb on "Pass The Salt" Saturday, 10/13/01

Date: 10/11/01 3:44:28 PM Pacific Standard Time

From:    spiker@ev1.net (spiker)

Hope all our friends will listen in and get others "who care" to do the
same, on Saturday to Coach Daubenmire's show each week. (Sorry, it's not
about those who dribble, bounce and pounce!)   Come to think about it,
maybe it is?...since this old cop will be on this next Saturday's show.

- Jack McLamb

See below:

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Daubenmire <ptsalt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:58 PM

WHAT PRICE SAFETY?

Have the recent terrorist attacks convinced Americans that it is necessary
to forfeit our Constitutional rights in order to be Safe?

Officer Jack McLamb ret, warns that the Constitution is our protection. In
our desire to be safe, Americans are unwittingly willing to give up the
basic rights that have kept us free.

The international organization POLICE AGAINST THE NEW WORLD ORDER and
national organization THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND LAWMEN ASSOC. were founded
by Jack and other Police Officers, for their fellow Police Officers, to
encourage their peers to live up to their oath to protect and defend the
Constitution and the people. Hear Officer Jack McLamb, military veteran
and retired police officer, warn of the perils of impending legislation and
Executive orders designed to strip us of our rights and usher in a
totalitarian New World Order.

PASS THE SALT with Coach Dave Daubenmire
http://www.ptsalt.com

Saturday morning at 11am ET, 10am CT, 9am MT, 8am PT.

WRFD am 880 Columbus/Worthington, Ohio
and LIVE ON THE NET AT: http://www.wrfd.com

Click below for the Listen Live link that will allow you to listen on your
computer.
http://www.wrfd.com/bobburneylive.asp


Subj:	URGENT-Is Texas chemical hotspot NEXT target???
Date:	10/11/01 4:09:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
To:	Patriot573@cs.com
CC:	Albertoaic


Subj:	Re: [Awakened4JChrist] (From My City) SHELTER IN PLACE STUDY -CHEMICAL EMERGENCY
Date:	10/11/01 3:15:27 PM Pacific Standard Time


Subj:	Shocking new legislation makes many formerly innocent into "terrorists!"
Date:	10/11/01 4:26:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
To:	Albertoaic
CC:	lone_warrior@rovin.net


Subj:	Beyond Shock! Reality Check
Date:	10/9/01 11:45:00 AM Pacific Standard Time


Subj:	Fwd: Jack McLamb on "Pass The Salt" Saturday, 10/13/01
Date:	10/11/01 4:39:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
From:	MyTWaryor4JC
To:	Albertoaic


Subj:	Jack McLamb on "Pass The Salt" Saturday, 10/13/01
Date:	10/11/01 3:44:28 PM Pacific Standard Time